ND vs NON-WORLD Languaging issues

THE  “GOD”  QUESTION [rjs]

[QUESTIONER:]

Q: As long as you do not put all the burden of evil on God, I am 

satisfied. There may be a God for all I know, but to me he is a 

concept projected by the human mind. He may be a reality to 

you, but to me society is more real than God, for I am both its 

creature and its prisoner. Your values are wisdom and compas-

sion; society’s: sagacious selfishness. I live in a world quite dif-

ferent from yours.

[NISARGADATTA MAHARAJ: ]

M: None compels.

Q: None compels you, but I am compelled. My world is an evil 

world, full of tears, toil and pain. To explain it away by the intel-

lectualizing, by putting forth theories of evolution and karma is 

merely adding insult to injury. The God of an evil world is a cruel 

God.

M: You are the god of your world and you are both stupid and 

cruel. Let God be a concept — your own creation. Find out who 

you are, how did you come to live, longing for truth, goodness 

and beauty in a world full of evil. Of what use is your arguing for 

or against God, when you just do not know who is God and what 

are you talking about. The God born of fear and hope, shaped 

by desire and imagination, cannot be the Power That Is, the 

Mind and the Heart of the universe.

Q: I agree that the world I live in and the God I believe in are 

both creatures of imagination. But in what way are they created 

by desire? Why do I imagine a world so painful and a God so in-

different? What is wrong with me that I should torture myself so 

cruelly? The enlightened man comes and tells me: ‘it is but a 

dream to put an end to’, but is he not himself a part of the 

dream? I find myself trapped and see no way out. You say you 

are free. Of what are you free? For heaven’s sake, don’t feed me 

on words, enlighten me, help me to wake up, since it is you who 

sees me tossing in my sleep.

M: When I say I am free, I merely state a fact. If you are an 

adult, you are free from infancy. I am free from all description 

and identification. 

Nisargadatta Maharaj 

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JayemHammer:

GOD: Gushing Ongoing Divinity. All that remains when there is no separate self whirling in the delusion of itself: the shimmering Light is everywhere and all arises and dances and passes away in it, revealing it. If one thing is denied, the Sacred cannot be seen….

Jackson Peterson: 

Jayem Hammer  seen by whom? 🤷‍♂️

James Hammer to Jackson Peterson:

●●●by the one who sees…its easy to get way too cute with all the ‘right languaging’, though it often requires we deny direct evidence….clearly, there IS ‘one’ who thinks, sees, acts, moves (and hopefully comes to be increasingly moved, free of the recoil that leads even to the mind that deflects with all the cute languaging: the tinsel on the tree…, just abide, honestly and truly; observe…breathe (far more than think)..notice how mind reaches for what it has read, thought, absorbed into itself, which only ‘thinks’,,,,something awaits beyond…there is a sacredness/holiness pervading All, Here and Now…but the mind niether sees it nor can hope to comprehend it…uncoil the mind into Presence, the heart into Stillness and the Kosmos reveals Itself AS Holiness, and suddenly that ‘God talk’ begins to make sense even to the mind that has eschewed it…it becomes as precious and useful in pointing to Mystery, and describing it, as any ‘languaging’…what really matters is the Heart beyond and deeeper than mind CAN reach, opens, like the roots of the lotus that allow the petals to blossom….and always and ALWAYS and always, clearly, there IS ‘one’ who is aware, indeed, given, gifted, and graced, with Seeing..●●●

Robin Sharing

I’m afraid my automatic ND answer to the automatic ND question is causing some upset here: “By no one, for no one, about no one”. This is not an easy LANGUAGING ISSUE to overcome as it tries to address a NON-WORLD issue within the realm of the world.