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Why I rjs feel my background is good -JK

I am using the word learn in quite a different sense, not as a process of acquiring knowledge. Living with a thing and acquiring knowledge about it are two different states. To learn about something, you must live with it, and if you already have knowledge about it, you cannot live with it because then you are only living with your own knowledge. To find out for ourselves about the extraordinarily complex problem of time and death, one must learn, and therefore live with it; and this is completely impeded if we approach it with the accumulation of what we already know, with knowledge. I will go into it a little, and perhaps we shall be able to communicate with each other.

We were talking the other day about desire. We went into it fairly sufficiently, but I think we missed something—that desire is intimately connected with will. Will implies, surely, not only desire but also choice. Where there is choice, there is will, and therefore the problem of time arises.

Please, if I may suggest it, listen to the whole thing right to the end. Do not stick at parts of it with which you agree or disagree, but look at the totality of it, the whole content of it. It is a matter of perception, of seeing something directly, and when you see something very directly then you neither agree or disagree—it is so.

So, as I was saying, through conflict, outward and inward, we develop will. And will is a form of resistance, obviously, whether it is the will to achieve or the will to be, the urge to deny or the determination to sustain something. Will is the many threads of desire, and with that we live. And when we inquire into time, we require an insight which is quite different from the will to understand. I do not know if this is clear, but I will go along with it, and perhaps you will see it. This is an informal talk, not a prepared talk; it is more or less an inquiring into oneself, and to go into it publicly is one thing, and to go into it all by oneself is quite another. What we are trying to do is to communicate it to each other—this journey into time. The inquiry implies time also, and the putting of words together implies time, and all communication is based on time. And perhaps there is a comprehension of what is time and what is timelessness, not through words, not through verbal or intellectual communication, but perhaps by sidestepping the whole process. But unfortunately we must first inquire verbally, intellectually, into time. And this inquiry is the sense of learning about it—which is not remembering what you have read, or merely hearing the words I am saying, but the perception of it, seeing it directly for yourself. And I think that may have immense value.

The Collected Works of

J. Krishnamurti -Volume XII 1961

There Is No Thinker, Only Thought
Jiddu Krishnamurti

It’s too late for you to back out -Adya

Adyashanti
Excerpted from: A talk in Mountain View, California
‘Enlightenment is effortless’

When you realize the truth, then you know that this truth is not fooling around. This truth wants you, and it wants your life, and it’s going to devour you and eat you up for dinner. The truth is not playing games. I’ve had more than one person say, “Adya, how do I turn this off? How do I back out of this deal? This isn’t what I signed up for.” And the only answer is, “Sorry, it’s too late, you can’t back out. You can walk away from me and from all teachers, and from spirituality altogether. You can go to the end of the earth and play some other game, but it’s too late. You can’t unrealize what you realize.” It’s a game until it’s not, but by the time you realize that it’s not a game, you can’t back out.

By and large, people want liberation, freedom, bliss, peace, love, and total release from fear. They want all the accoutrements of enlightenment without having to pay the price. They don’t want to pay the price of a total love affair, a total commitment. I’m not speaking of anything that is separate or different from your life. This doesn’t have anything to do with the monastery or leaving your day-to-day existence. The truth is here in every single moment of your life. That’s the truth. It’s not separate from your life. You can’t run away from yourself and your life in order to awaken to reality. Your life is your path to awakening. Stop and open your eyes: You were free from the very beginning.

Please understand that it’s not you that wakes up; it’s reality that wakes up, the truth wakes up. You are not enlightened; enlightenment is enlightened. Ultimately this realization doesn’t have anything to do with individuals, since there aren’t any separate individuals. That is the whole illusion, that there is something separate from the ultimate reality. When it’s clear that there’s nothing going on other than the ultimate reality, it’s a done deal — enlightenment is effortless.

Adyashanti

It’s too late for you to back out now. You can’t unrealize something that you have realized.

You are the Supreme Reality -NM

Nisargadatta Maharaj
Excerpt from: I AM THAT
‘Just catch hold of what I told you and live by it.’

There is an alternative to sadhana, which is trust. If you cannot have the conviction born from fruitful search, then take advantage of my discovery, which I am so eager to share with you. I can see with the utmost clarity that you have never been, nor are, nor will be estranged from realty, that you are the fullness of perfection here and now and that nothing can deprive you of your heritage, of what you are. You are in no way different from me, only you do not know it. You do not know what you are and therefore you imagine your self to be what you are not. Hence desires and fear and overwhelming despair. And meaningless activity in order to escape.

Just trust me and live by trusting me. I shall not mislead you. You are the Supreme Reality beyond the world and its creator, beyond consciousness and its witness, beyond all assertions and denials. Remember it, think of it, act on it. Abandon all sense of separation, see yourself in all and act accordingly. With action bliss will come and, with bliss, conviction. (…) Just catch hold of what I told you and live by it.

Eternal Now Ashtavakra Gita – Bible – Bhagavad Gita – Nisargadatta – G.I. Gurdjieff

Eternal Now
Ashtavakra Gita – Bible – Bhagavad Gita – Nisargadatta – G.I. Gurdjieff
Ashtavakra Gita
15.17
One who knows for certain
that the universe is illusion,
a no-thing,
becomes desireless,
pure Awareness,
and finds peace in the existence of nothing.
15.18
In the ocean of existence
only One is, was, and ever will be.
You are neither bound nor free.
Live content and be happy.


John 8:48-59
‘’Before Abraham Was, I Am’’
48 The Jews answered him, “Are we not right in saying that you are a Samaritan and have a demon?” 49 Jesus answered, “I do not have a demon, but I honor my Father, and you dishonor me. 50 Yet I do not seek my own glory; there is One who seeks it, and he is the judge. 51 Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps my word, he will never see death.” 52 The Jews said to him, “Now we know that you have a demon! Abraham died, as did the prophets, yet you say, ‘If anyone keeps my word, he will never taste death.’ 53 Are you greater than our father Abraham, who died? And the prophets died! Who do you make yourself out to be?” 54 Jesus answered, “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say, ‘He is our God.’[a] 55 But you have not known him. I know him. If I were to say that I do not know him, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and I keep his word. 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day. He saw it and was glad.” 57 So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?”[b] 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” 59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.


Bhagavad Gita
4.3
The same ancient knowledge of Yog, which is the supreme secret, I am today revealing unto you, because you are my friend as well as my devotee, who can understand this transcendental wisdom.
4:4
Arjun said: You were born much after Vivasvan. How am I to understand that in the beginning you instructed this science to him?
4:5
The Supreme Lord said: Both you and I have had many births, O Arjun. You have forgotten them, while I remember them all, O Parantapa.
4:6
Although I am unborn, the Lord of all living entities, and have an imperishable nature, yet I appear in this world by virtue of Yogmaya, my divine power.


Nisargadatta – ‘I am that’
Q: Obviously, I am not all-pervading and eternal. I am only here and now.
M: Good enough. The ‘here’ is everywhere and the now — always. Go beyond the ‘I-am-the-body’ idea and you will find that space and time are in you and not you in space and time. Once you have understood this, the main obstacle to realisation is removed.
M.: I am real for I am always now, in the present, and what is with me now shares in my reality. (…) A thing focussed in the now is with me, for I am ever present; it is my own reality that I impart to the present event.
Past and future are in mind only — I am now.


G.I. Gurdjieff – ‘All and Everything’
‘’Life is Real Only Then, When ‘I Am’’’

Thanks to Anna Bharati Wysocka

Universe is a big lie

Robert Adams
Excerpt from: Satsang
‘Knowing this, be still!’

Hear ye: Nothing exists. The only reason the world exist is because you think you are the body. You have created God in your own image and you worship that God. The truth is that God should worship you. The universe is a big lie. And if you believe in the universe then you’re a bigger liar. You are all waiting for something to happen. The truth is what is already is happening has already happened. There is nothing else to happen, so let it happen.

There is absolutely nothing for you to do to become self-realized, except shut up. There is noone who can do anything for you and you can do nothing for yourself. It is better therefore to keep quiet and do nothing. There is no teaching that can set you free and there is no teacher that can set you free. Just knowing this, you will already be free. Expect nothing, do nothing, be nothing and you will discover that you are everything. Noone can save and you cannot save yourself. Knowing this, be still!

If you only knew who you were then all the Gods and Goddesses that you have been praying to would fall at your feet. Forget about affirming., “I am not the body,” for if you were not the body why would you affirm you were not the body, consciousness, pure awareness are only words, go beyond that. To know the ultimate truth, you first must know nothing.

The whole universe is a manifestation of your mind. To remove the manifestation examine your mind carefully, diligently by inquiring, “To whom does this come?” It is virtually impossible for you to have a problem. How can you have a problem if you don’t even exist? Do not complicate your life by reading voluminous books. Rather empty yourself up of all the book language you’ve ever had.

Reading a book makes you feel good for a while. But diving within yourself removes all samskaras and samsaras and sets you free. To love yourself is better than reading books and going to lectures or hearing sermons or doing anything. You are That which has always been. Discover what that is. By turning within.

Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum. (students laugh) (silence)

Commonality bet E&W: God => Self -rjs

In the interest of laying a groundwork for smoother conversations, I’ve been searching for a way to present an albeit slight COMMONALITY that the East and West have re. the definition of “God”: this COMMONALITY is “Self”.

SG => Self=God
SB => Self=Beyond

SG: God is All that there is. Beyond God there is nothing. Not a single thing whatsoever can be found beyond God.

SB: Absolutely right sg: there is nothing beyond. It is exactly this NOTHING that we esteem and worship as the only real Self that there is.

Robin: Two things are most undesirable at this juncture:
(1) Pitting SB and SG against each other.
(2) Merging SB and SG in any way.
DrRobinStarbuck