QUESTION: Herb frequently references soul and spirit as the fifth and sixth heavens respectively. I was wondering if anyone could tell me as to how he saw/defined soul and spirit and as to the relationship between them?
Hopefully Yours
Michael Collie
ANSWER: Herb draws much of this from the works of Enoch, found in the Pseudographa the dead sea scrolls and other writings which were systematically removed from the Bible. These were the major teachings of the Essenes…the sect which Jesus belonged to and taught.
Enoch’s teachings about the seven heavens is also mirrored in John’s Revelation.
He speaks at length about Enoch, Revelations and the seven realms. I thought the same thing at one point, and one particular talk brought it into focus for me. I’ll have to dig that up for you. (I have the habit of jumping all over the place. lol)
Of course, beyond this, I’m sure he was given inner instruction on these works.
He was put through a period of inner “initiation” to prepare him for the teaching work and, like Joel, received constant guidance throughout.
Oh, here you go.
It’s from living in the 4th Dimension. Talk is called, “Enoch”
I don’t know if this will clear it all up, but it helped shed some light for me, when cross-referenced with Revelations.
There are also many other parallels in the Bible, such as the 7 days of creation.
Sean Frank Schiraldi
Having trouble seeing people as spiritual?
Are you perhaps looking at their form and mentally translating it to a quasi-spiritual mental image of a form?
It’s progress, yes, but it’s not really Christ-consciousness.
See them as Wholeness rather than finite form of light.
Wait a minute! Hold the phone!
You haven’t really seen yourself as a Whole being, so how could you be expected to see the other person spiritually?
If you do succeed in doing this you will have embarked on an entirely new way of seeing.
Start by knowing yourself to be the Spirit.
Now let the concept of physicality dissolve before your spiritual eyes.
Realize that Spirit is not finite, not limited, doesn’t exist in a room.
You are not a finite being.
You can see the nature of your own self having never been born, never dying.
As Spirit you’ll never become anything but what you are.
Always Spirit.
You can literally lay down your life and pick it up again because God isn’t in a mortal body.
The material scene is but objectified human concepts.
Take yourself out of this scene and throw off its boundaries.
Let your Wholeness live itself without the finite concept imposing.
Lay down your false sense of life by opening it up from beginning to ending.
You. Have. No. Beginning. – No. Time.
No. Place. Called. Space.
No. Substance. Called. Physicality.
Spirit is Spirit – concept free!
Enter the realm that TRANSCENDS THE MIND.
Get out of finite thinking because it can never take you into the infinite.
Only Spiritual consciousness delivers.
Your Christ consciousness causes you to see God “face-to-face.”
AS YOU DWELL IN THIS NO-MAN’S-LAND ABOVE HUMAN THINKING, YOU ARE LAYING DOWN YOUR LIFE, YOUR PERSONAL SENSE OF SELF.
An awareness is arising in you now that all around you is a universe which you never could have seen with the mind you just left behind!
A tad scary?
You’re no longer thinking and yet you’re no longer in that familiar realm.
YOU’RE WAITING FOR THE FACULTIES OF THE SOUL TO ASSERT THEMSELVES.
It’s your turn now to supply the missing link which you previously weren’t privy to.
Reach within your own being to the kingdom of God.
You’re not trying to find the Christ, your real consciousness: you ARE that Christ. “It is I.” That’s your real Self.
When you are your own Being, the evils of the world dissolve.
The Substance of the Father IS the Substance of the Son.
And the Son rests in God.
In the Substance of the Father we become aware of the reality of HARMONY.
Now see that “other person” free!
When a problem presents itself, take two steps:
First, in your so-called human mind, try knowing the truth about it. This sets up a connection with God within you. Then WHEN YOU REALIZE THAT YOU CAN’T KNOW THE TRUTH WITH YOUR HUMAN MIND (BECAUSE THERE ISN’T ANY) you’re ready for the second step to TAKE NO THOUGHT AND LET GOD DO THE ‘THINKING’. This also sets up a powerful MEDITATION sequence: first contemplate (in your mind) some powerful truths about God. Second, clear your mind entirely leaving no dependency on human mentation whatsoever.
Looking down on former self you can hardly relate anymoreLooking down at what you once thought was yourself,
YOU CAN’T EVEN RELATE ANYMORE with such limited, morbid and tragic thinking!
Sooo happy! Such wonderful happy thoughts! How glorious!
[Turn on Television]
Hate, envy, violence, greed, jealousy!
BAM !! OFF
Are you aware of God’s presence Within?
Are u in Oneness with this presence within?
R u out of personal selfhood?
R u Christ now?
Q: WHAT SHOULD YOU DO ABOUT A LIE?
.
A: STAY WITH THE TRUTH AND WATCH THE LIE DISSOLVE ITSELF.
The L I E presented to you is the tempter.
It’s suggesting to you that a LIE must be reckoned with & healed
U can’t heal a LIE
The Truth that you know while living in your Spiritual center will set others free too because it’s their center as well.
#ONENESS
One of hardest gosh-darnd lessons I’ve had 2learn is u cn think about God all day evry day & acmplish nothng til u apply princples
This may sound ludicrous but I’m actually grateful for reminders telling me I’m not fully
in/connected/aware of
I-Spirit at moment
ALL PROBLEMS
are about one thing only: IDENTITY.
-however-
I am living Spirit of God, eternal, unchanging. There’s No other Life
Let invisible consciousness of universe BE your consciousness.
God knows what you need before you ask.
You’re everywhere God is.
As long as you are a mortal – in your belief – God is not with you.
Mankind is so reluctant to recognize dream nature of mortality
LET’S LAY DOWN OUR LIFE
(our material sense of life)
to be able to see spiritual universe all around which we couldn’t see b4
I rest in identity of Spirit as myself only to find hidden Christ.
“It is I”.
I of Christ as my consciousness gives me dominion.
” I ” have instructed the brain to
SHUT UP !!!
& let real I take over!
I-Spirit is secret to my identity. Whenever U say “I”…
God is not with mortals.
We are not mortals.
.
GOD IS WITH US.
DIFFICULTIES
are
UNAVOIDABLE
& WILL CONTINUE bcoz they are NECESSARY as man is UNWILLING to RECOGNIZE DREAM nature of MORTALITY.
“YOUR MIND IS LIKE A DART BOARD.” [HF]
You can’t control it.
DARTS ARE THROWN AT IT from all over the universal WORLD MIND.
The belief in MORTALITY
is an automatic separation from the INFINITE.
Until we see mortality is unreal how can we follow Christ?
□ Note to Robin:
Everything you’re seeing
‘OUT THERE’
is really a mirror to your #CONSCIOUSNESS
YOU DON’T NEED TO SEEK GOD.
You are the very presence of God.
To bring this fully and clearly into view consider all ramifications
Spirit, God, is the Substance of your being.
Think deeply about all that this means.
● THEN QUIT ALL THINKING ●
Let God take over.
Whatever problems you may have, try overcoming them with the Truth of your being, your Spiritual being!
Ponder deeply
&trust fully
There is a place in u where u know Presence of God is ur own Being.
Go there again & again:
It’s new dimension of #Consciousness.
tHAT oTHER pLACE
u go to is illegitimate.
It’s sapping all ur love & joy & grasp on Spiritual reality.
Decide 2b done w it now!
The Christ is in u.
Think about what it means a loooong time & really believe all it implies – to exclusion of all other thoughts!
WHEN U REST
in kingdom of God within u ur literally harvesting the infinite
All its power is individualizing as ur consciousness
Seeking God is acting as separated mortal. But we are
O N E
with God.
Imagine wave without the ocean or the ocean without the wave
There’s milk for babes & meat for those ready for it.
Some things cannot & should not b said directly bcoz not yet comprehensible.
TELL NO MAN !!
There is so much to tell but sadly most are not ready to hear.
Their questions have preconceived notions built in
If u give people meat when u should give them milk they won’t be able to handle it & will trample on it bcoz they don’t understand
I’m thankful to have been given milk when I wasn’t yet ready for meat but I’ll say now it’s soooo difficult 2know everyone’s level
Herb Fitch declares repeatedly he is speaking to a more advanced level group & his discussion is not intended for merely curious.
There is a spiritual universe and no other.
You are in that universe … now.
That means you too are …?
Answer: spiritual.
GOD IS ALL .
There is nothing else.
God is invisible to the human eye which sees images in mind.
God didn’t make material univ.
I AM THE LIGHT = THE CHRIST
(the substance, Spirit, Life of God)
U are the light.
Have mind of Christ Jesus to know who u r.
ABSENT FROM THE BODY AND PRESENT WITH THE LORD
=
I and the Father are eternally
O-N-E !!! . #oneness
Buddha discovered that this world isn’t real
Jesus agreed and showed that everywhere was the invisible realm of his Father instead
Jesus got rid of the mortal self – the man who’s separated from Source.
“Me” dies and “I” is born in our #consciousness = #ONENESS
You can only progress so much living in this world. To continue you’ll have to step out of this world and into real consciousness.
WHAT’S DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 3rd & 4th DIMENSIONS?
4th Dimension is GOD: perfect immortal ETERNALITY
3rd Dimension isn’t.
#ONENESS
Life is wonderful, don’t spoil it by belief. Listen to your heart without outside influence.
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~Andy Leach
When you start loving everyone you see or think about with unbridled affection, you’ll know you’ve been smitten by
Holy Spirit !!!
We’re not turning our back on carnal mind, pretending it doesn’t exist: We’re turning our back on carnal mind BECAUSE it doesn’t
When you recognize that there is a voice in your head that pretends to be you and never stops speaking, you are awakening out of your unconscious identification with the stream of thinking.
When you notice that voice, you realize that who you are is not the voice – the thinker – but the One who is aware of it.
~ Eckhart Tolle
“I don’t have to be anything at all. I don’t even have to be myself, because there is no such thing as not being myself. I am inescapably myself.”
Mooji
HOW NOT TO SHARE SPIRITUAL WISDOM
Enlightenment should be disconnected from all extraneous images and strange unnecessary practices.
Sitting in a prescribed position, speaking in an ultra-religious sounding patronizing voice or acting in any affected way as if to denote piety or esoteric other-worldliness should not be seen as part and parcel of spiritual awakening.
Assuming a position of loftiness, eeriness or any holier-than-thou aspect is entirely uncalled for, unrelated and unhelpful when it comes to sharing precious and amazingly simple enlightening wisdom.
TEN-MINUTE MEDITATION
started with glancing at clock 10:32+
Plan: at 10:33, contemplate 5 min,
10:38 clear the mind completely.
I have an issue. Leave it out.
No focus at all on material realm.
Just contemplate what … 10:33 Begin.
I saw so clearly that I’m spiritual, all including everyone is infinite Presence.
Saw more and more specifically how this is so.
The realm of Spirit, the only Self, is here.
Saw everyone awash in Love of God.
10:38 CLEARED ALL THOUGHTS ENTIRELY.
“Move on!” ….. “Just nothing” ….. “Keep going ….. “Free!” ….. “Clear” …..
TONGUES with melody keeping all thinking at abeyance. 10:43. Wow! Looking forward to doing it again. [The clock aspect is temporary just to set it up.]
Why haven’t my prayers been answered?
BECAUSE YOU HAVEN’T BEEN LIVING THEM !!
“Thy kingdom come” = Spirit is, was and always has been here INSTEAD of the need.
You say you believe this but very soon you contradict this with another belief!
Spend an entire day in Spirit (the only place you can be) … that is, in the awareness of Spirit and nothing else!
You must consciously do the correct contradicting: “No! The truth is that God is all so you (the lie) are not, can not be!”
Here’s another treat – if you haven’t tried it yet: tongues with a rhythm and melody. For me it helps to keep tongues going automatically as long as I want. It sometimes kicks in seemingly of its own accord. It’s so pleasant and joyful. In public I sometimes do it under my breath or even hum IN TONGUES silently – if you can imagine that! It really pushes out all the junk most effectively!
