QUESTION: Herb frequently references soul and spirit as the fifth and sixth heavens respectively. I was wondering if anyone could tell me as to how he saw/defined soul and spirit and as to the relationship between them?
Hopefully Yours
Michael Collie

ANSWER: Herb draws much of this from the works of Enoch, found in the Pseudographa the dead sea scrolls and other writings which were systematically removed from the Bible. These were the major teachings of the Essenes…the sect which Jesus belonged to and taught.
Enoch’s teachings about the seven heavens is also mirrored in John’s Revelation.
He speaks at length about Enoch, Revelations and the seven realms. I thought the same thing at one point, and one particular talk brought it into focus for me. I’ll have to dig that up for you. (I have the habit of jumping all over the place. lol)

Of course, beyond this, I’m sure he was given inner instruction on these works.
He was put through a period of inner “initiation” to prepare him for the teaching work and, like Joel, received constant guidance throughout.
Oh, here you go.
It’s from living in the 4th Dimension. Talk is called, “Enoch”

I don’t know if this will clear it all up, but it helped shed some light for me, when cross-referenced with Revelations.

There are also many other parallels in the Bible, such as the 7 days of creation.
Sean Frank Schiraldi

Having trouble seeing people as spiritual?
Are you perhaps looking at their form and mentally translating it to a quasi-spiritual mental image of a form?
It’s progress, yes, but it’s not really Christ-consciousness.
See them as Wholeness rather than finite form of light.
Wait a minute! Hold the phone!
You haven’t really seen yourself as a Whole being, so how could you be expected to see the other person spiritually?
If you do succeed in doing this you will have embarked on an entirely new way of seeing.
Start by knowing yourself to be the Spirit.
Now let the concept of physicality dissolve before your spiritual eyes.
Realize that Spirit is not finite, not limited, doesn’t exist in a room.
You are not a finite being.
You can see the nature of your own self having never been born, never dying.
As Spirit you’ll never become anything but what you are.
Always Spirit.
You can literally lay down your life and pick it up again because God isn’t in a mortal body.
The material scene is but objectified human concepts.
Take yourself out of this scene and throw off its boundaries.
Let your Wholeness live itself without the finite concept imposing.
Lay down your false sense of life by opening it up from beginning to ending.
You. Have. No. Beginning. – No. Time.
No. Place. Called. Space.
No. Substance. Called. Physicality.
Spirit is Spirit – concept free!
Enter the realm that TRANSCENDS THE MIND.
Get out of finite thinking because it can never take you into the infinite.
Only Spiritual consciousness delivers.
Your Christ consciousness causes you to see God “face-to-face.”
AS YOU DWELL IN THIS NO-MAN’S-LAND ABOVE HUMAN THINKING, YOU ARE LAYING DOWN YOUR LIFE, YOUR PERSONAL SENSE OF SELF.
An awareness is arising in you now that all around you is a universe which you never could have seen with the mind you just left behind!
A tad scary?
You’re no longer thinking and yet you’re no longer in that familiar realm.
YOU’RE WAITING FOR THE FACULTIES OF THE SOUL TO ASSERT THEMSELVES.
It’s your turn now to supply the missing link which you previously weren’t privy to.
Reach within your own being to the kingdom of God.
You’re not trying to find the Christ, your real consciousness: you ARE that Christ. “It is I.” That’s your real Self.
When you are your own Being, the evils of the world dissolve.
The Substance of the Father IS the Substance of the Son.
And the Son rests in God.
In the Substance of the Father we become aware of the reality of HARMONY.
Now see that “other person” free!

Not human will, human ingenuity, etc., but Consciousness of I Am.
The works that Jesus did, we can do, through I Am.
The sea that parted
The blind healed
The daughter raised to life
The food multiplied
The walls penetrated
World consciousness exposed
Matter overcome.
Illusions overturned
The purpose of spiritual living
Is to get out of parenthesis
I Am is where we live and move
and have our
B R E A T H I N G !!!

The omnipotence of the Father, I Am.
I-Christ is all I Am.
We all come to Armageddon.
Destruction … or Christ.
Nothing ever happened in your life,
Now, past, present to prepare you to accept I Am.
Your material world is gone.
Gone is self-will.
All possessions too.
Shall I seek the counterfeit??
Much changes in your life.
No longer is anything impossible.
The moment we turn away from all that
I Am not, everything is infinitely
ordained and performed by I Am.
Liberation … I Am takes us into
the new heaven & new earth.
No need to protect yourself now.
See I Am everywhere, right where
the world sees form.
There is no place on earth where
I Am not because I Am is all power.
I Am sees Itself everywhere.
I really wanted to help that poor fellow –
But now I’m helping 8 million of them.
No need for even a slingshot!
The way of the disciple of Christ: I Am.
I Am the life. What life? The Only Life!
The ONE Infinite Life that men call God.
We cannot conceal
that I & Father are ONE.
(19A HF RevSeries)

IS HEALING PASSÉ ? I THINK NOT !!
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“If you look with dead senses you are going to see death. But suppose you look with Life. Suppose you look with that Vision which is of the Spirit. Suppose you first, see the I, of your own Being before you try to find the I of another. And so what stood before this bedside? What stood before this girl that was different than everyone else who stood there looking at her? I stood there looking at her, not a dead physical being, but I the living Spirit of God stood there in a form. A form that appeared to people as Jesus, but it was I, The Christ standing looking at this girl. And what does I, The Christ see, the Immortal I, the Immortal Christ can only behold it’s Self. The Immortal I saw the Immortal I. And she awakened and asked for food. Now this Immortal I in her, awakened by the recognition of It, by one who stood in the Immortal I, now awakened not only that I but that I awakened the dead senses. Now those senses were not being governed by chance. Now those senses were not being murdered by the cosmic or the unconscious mind. Now this girl was not a channel for the lie about Immortality. The Immortal I of her own Being was recognized and It became the law of her Being. And It now animated the senses. It gave her a desire for food. And she was twelve. And so we know that, as Jesus himself speaking in the temple at twelve was able to educate the elders. She had gone through the transition of rebirth, and The Christ in the form of Jesus, and The Christ within her, being one and the same. The Immortal Self now, which had ever been present through centuries of human time was emerging to take dominion over the false human mind. Now before Jesus brought us this resurrection of the girl, he very carefully laid the groundwork to show us that where we see through a glass darkly with a mortal mind, with a mortal consciousness, with mortal senses, there is an invisible Life present which is not mortal, which is not subject to chance, which is not subject to human powers, which is not at the discretion of one individual or a nation or a body of material laws.”
~Herb Fitch
The Infinite Way Book Study
Transcripts of the 1969 Class
from San Francisco

TIME NO LONGER: FINALLY FREE (IN THE FIFTH DIMENSION)
And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be TIME NO LONGER
Revelation 10:6

We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. [15] Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. [16] Hereby perceive we the love of God , because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. [17] But whoso hath this world’s good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him? [18] My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. [19] And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him. [20] For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. [21] Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God. [22] And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. [23] And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. [24] And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
1 John 3:14-24
YOU MUST LOVE EVERYONE BECAUSE GOD CREATED EVERYONE – NOT THE ‘IMAGES’ THAT YOU SEE, BUT THE REAL, IMMORTAL, PERSON OF GOD’S CREATING, THE REALITY, SIGHT UNSEEN.

Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God
I AM NOT THE SON OF A MORTAL, CONCEIVED IN A WOMB. I AM THE SON OF GOD. WHAT I WILL BE IS WHAT I AM.
therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
I AM MORE THAN A MORTAL. WHAT A GLORIOUS REALIZATION!
[2] Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
JOHN IS TELLING US WE ARE THE SON OF GOD. I WANT TO BE WORTHY.
[3] And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
1 John 3:1-3

JOHN WAS TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT KIND/PART OF LIFE BEING MANIFESTED – A LIFE THAT CANNOT COME THROUGH OUR SENSES – ETERNAL LIFE (THE ONLY REAL LIFE) :
1 John 1:1-3 KJV
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; [2] (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it , and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;) [3] That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
HF last-Chicago 4A

THE 23RD PSALM IS OUR INNER INITIATION INTO SOUL-BODY CONSCIOUSNESS.
We are Spirit, thinking ourselves to be matter, a mere parenthesis in eternity. The little pokes (pain) from the rod remind us we’ve strayed from the ONE SELF. In the Soul you are alive forever – the Tree of Life. In the mind, we are the Tree of Good&Evil. The Table prepared for me in the midst of my enemies is eternal life. Reality (God) is: we’re in the Place prepared for us NOW !!
<●> The Lord is my shepherd, I lack nothing.
[2] He makes me lie down in green pastures, he leads me beside quiet waters,
[3] he refreshes my soul. He guides me along the right paths for his name’s sake.
[4] Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.
[5] You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies. You anoint my head with oil; my cup overflows.
[6] Surely your goodness and love will follow me all the days of my life, and I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever.
Psalm 23:1-6 NIV