A tribute to Nisargadatta
All posts by Dr. Robin Starbuck
Jim Newman • Vienna 23 March 2018
The individual is convinced that there’s something that needs to be gotten and somewhere that they need to go. This is just not true.
This is the end of experiencing.
The individual can’t know or find out anything about what is real.
Don’t think of a pink elephant to show that you are in control! That’s how much control the individual has.
Built into the body’s mechanism is the need for survival. It will do anything it can to survive and it will seek out good experiences and tried to avoid bed experiences.
The end of the individual is the absolute opposite of detachment. There’s no longer a separation between what appears and the individual. So if there’s anger, happiness joy whatever that’s what is. That’s all that is.
Religious teachings come from the belief that what tortures the individual is thoughts and feelings. You can detached from them and then you can realize that you have never had a thought!
Are you rejecting physics altogether? No but it’s just information. But it’s fun! Yes yes it is but it’s just information. In terms of technology there are quantum something… apparently yes apparently. When there’s no longer an individual it is obvious that an appearance is not anything. Because it’s matter. Nothing nothing! And this is nothing mattering!
The Open Secret -TN
Be out of your mind -RAdams
“Those of us who have been studying Advaita Vedanta, the non-duality concepts, have come across the one principle of Advaita and remember it intellectually. The one principle being, ‘Everything is Brahman. The whole universe is Brahman. Only Brahman exists and this world that appears to you is a hallucination.’ You’re hallucinating by believing the world is real. Non-dualists understand this, they realize this.
And yet some people have a hard time in grasping the truth of this, what this really means. Brahman cannot be explained. It is beyond words and thoughts, there is no valid explanation for Brahman. You can only know Brahman when you leave your senses behind. When you go out of your mind. This is the only time when you will know Brahman.
So when somebody tells you you’re out of your mind say, ‘Thank you.’ It’s a compliment. You want to be out of your mind. It’s no fun being in your mind. For in your mind you relate to the world. You relate to person, place and thing. So you want to be out of the mind, totally out of the mind. “
~ Robert Adams (20th century American Advaita mystic)
That sticky question – Group help
This is a wonderful group to be in, very supportive, sensitive and well-informed. To tell the truth the question I raised here has been dogging me for awhile. I’ve been following Rupert for quite a few years now and find his teaching most illuminating. I’ve noticed over the years his gradual leaning toward the Absolute as in absolute emptiness, absolute absence, absolute nothingness and absolute allness – the antipode of separation – all areas that have had my full attention for quite some time as well. Tony Parsons and Jim Newman go to great lengths to spell out that any concession to two-ness, as in teacher-student, existence-nonexistence, I-you-we-me-etc, time, space, matter, body, etc, is absolutely impossible. Thanks to you four respondents, I’ve found peace that harkens back to my former #1 interest: healing. The takeaway I’d like to share with you – coming from you – is when in doubt, start with the answer. Absolute anything is nothing short of 100%. Functioning in this world, however long, calls for temporary expedients. DrRobinStarbuck
Jim Newman, Vienna June 2018
It’s not necessary for the whole world to blow up or otherwise disappear in order to realize that nothing is really happening. Position 19. Nothing was, is, will be, happening!
The dream of death seems so terrible because it means there’s nothing there but there already is nothing there. Pos 30.
The Perfect Answer! Conflict ceases to arise.
Were lies the conflict for “you”? “I” makes out/is the energy that continues/is continued in the search for the difference. The happening of searching belongs/is “I”…
When energetical position (“I”) is no longer happening, no such question arraises. Without that energetical position that makes the “i” no thing matters…
End
Tomas Agren
I Never Go Anywhere -RSpira
The loss of ‘you’
“The seeker is the belief that this shift in perspective is somehow a gain, that it will be something wonderful that he or she will get. There is often the belief that there will be a great gain in peace, happiness, wisdom and knowledge about the workings of the universe and or of god, or that you will simply be a better more special you…..nothing could be further from the truth. Nobody really wants this, as it’s the striping down of everything that is thought to be your reality….it’s an unimaginable loss. It’s the loss of anyone who has or wants knowledge or wisdom or even happiness and peace. It’s the loss of you, the you who would or could be anything or any non-thing. It’s the loss of everything…..your world……your universe….your life. What’s left? Just the simplicity of whatever is “apparently” happening….no knowing of what’s happening, yet seeming knowing can be what’s happening. What’s (apparently) happening is seen to be more like a flowing dreamscape that belongs to no one…..empty beyond empty, yet still quite ordinary. No inside, outside or other, just this complete, intimate, timeless immediacy. The concepts or conceptual overlay that make up the world of seeming separation, of real and solid things, or non-things, are seen to be just that, completely empty concepts with not even nothing underneath. Amazingly though, this conceptual overlay is now seen to be quite a beautiful treasure, as without it there are no stories, no you or I, no beauty, no love….it’s the only place we can ever exist…it’s what we are.”
Antonia Lovejoy
I am the presence which allows existence to be -TP
I am not my life story, the mind, the body, feelings, experiences of pain or pleasure, struggles, success, or failure. I am not loneliness, stillness, frustration, or compassion. I am not even what I think is my purpose, the seeking, the finding, or anything which is called spiritual experience.
When I don’t know what I am, I sanctify experiences, take ownership of them, give them great significance. I believe they mean something which, when understood, will provide me with answers and formulas. But these experiences are only consciousness concealing and revealing itself in order to be recognized. When I know “what” I am, I discover that I am not existence, I am the presence which allows existence to be. Existence either blossoms in that presence or reflects back my sense of separation.
Tony Parsons, ‘As It Is’
